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The meta issue basically boils down to "are you a min-maxed bloodied build? No? Enjoy every imaginable disadvantage." Its ridiculous at this point

Bullet Sponges never made Fun Events. In any Game. Id rather have them dead Quick.

I joined the game recently, got to level 50+ with a pistol build then gave up and went Fixer commando, it trivialises the game a bit, but other builds just did no damage. The meta is too restrictive, its like most MMO's or online games sadly. Camp building is what the game is about once youve beat main quests

i came back on a different system "PC" and am running full health heavy gunner with a gatling gun, i don't run out of ammo in fact killing 90% of things nets me more I'm converting off more ammo then u use and am currently at 72k 5mm. I have also managed to become almost immune to fire/explosions and thanks to 2 lucky rolls on secret service armor i take no fall damage out of power armor so i can run around jumping off anything i want and just go up and let super mutant suicideres blow up on me

nothing to put up a fight at end game. anyone in pa with 1 rank in born survivor cant die. anyone with bloody kill so fast u still cant die

TLDR: Game sucked at launch, so I quit. Game is better now, but I think a few things would greatly improve it further. PREAMBLE: My brother and I bought the game at release, and it was plagued with bugs and server issues, so I didn't stick around for very long. Every time we would get time off work to play the game, we would disconnect again and again. Eventually I got fed up with all the bugs. Enemies wouldn't take damage or inventory management would be outright annoying to deal with. The story was lackluster, especially without NPC's. I am more of a Bethesda fan than him, as I have made some mods for a few of their games and enjoy that scene in it's own right, however, I was surprised when he told me he was playing the game again after the wastelanders update, so I decided to jump back into the game to give it another go. And while I would say the game got a lot better, it just wasn't holding my interest. Keep in mind that I've put 1000's of hours into the other games, and never had an issue with the gameplay loop or story experience without mods, at least the first time. This game's story just wasn't doing it for me, but I wanted it to. I wanted to be swept away on another wasteland adventure... THE FALLOUT SHOW RELEASES: My interest for fallout is peaked all over again, but I just can't bring myself to start up fallout 4 again. I start the game, but as soon as I hear Preston talking again, my mind melts. I quit. I see fallout 76 still sitting in my library. Taunting me. Fine! I decide to give it one final company try. Finally, it grips me. 2 months of playing straight, and I sink almost 300 hrs into the game. My level 200 character, all the story completed, including the newest update. Then it hits me. The content drought. I'm logging in just to go through the motions. And the repeatable content is a real slog. DAILY OPS ARE NOT FUN. -ENEMY MODIFIERS/VARIANTS don't make a lot of sense for the lore, and have limited strategies to mitigate them. This system is just too polarizing. As a new player with a few days of daily ops under your belt, you will immediately see a pattern. Either this challenge is going to be really difficult or really easy, but neither of them are going to feel fun. Either you will go in with your normal build and ace it, or you will need your try hard weapons. Either way, you will constantly get killed by reflective damage or explosive enemies until you get the hang of it. SOLUTION: Force the player to diversify their build instead of prioritizing damage above everything else. Damage mitigation should not be borderline irrelevant. Enemy tactics should reflect the type of enemy in the lore. -SOLO is almost always the best strategy. Why? Because the game incentivizes you to build a four-man team to get the max rewards, only for that team to disband immediately afterward, making the effort to do so feel pointless and not worth it, as the comradery is so short-lived. SOLUTION: Matchmaking. Queue up to do daily ops. Bam, done. Respect the player's time. It shouldn't take an act of congress to complete something with DAILY in the f'n name. Also, might even meet some of those other players the game advertises. -MAP DESIGNS for daily ops are just painful. Dead ends? Hidden passages? Needless amounts of verticality? Asymmetrical designs? Someone at BGS Austin said yes, please. These maps should be designed like an arena, akin to doom or halo, not like 3 mazes stacked on top of each other connected by hidden staircases. In timed events mind you! Granted you can learn the layout of these maps relatively easy, I get it, but that doesn't make them fun or interesting (They are just altered locations that already exist, and that is why they suck as small traversable maps). Enemy spawns need to be reworked. Enemies will actively spawn behind you and avoid you at times. SOLUTION: Create custom maps that actually have some time and effort put into them. Use Call of Duty and other small map shooters as a reference if need be, but by god, don't wing it with recycled assets for repeatable content. EXPEDITIONS ARE POORLY PACED AND PLAYERS ONLY RUN TWO OF THEM, ANYWAY. -SPEED DEMON has never felt so necessary. Players run through the entire expedition, skip all the dialogue, and pummel the bosses. Rinse, and repeat, right? This isn't rewarding. It's counterintuitive to the design, and only 1 of these things is actually working. SOLUTION: Cut the BS. Truncate expeditions to expedite the action. No dialogue NPC's. All objectives need to be delivered with voice-overs and character portraits on screen to keep the action flowing. -CASINO OR BOARDWALK? Hope you like one of them, because those are the only two expeditions that players run. Why? They're short and sweet, with higher chance of max rewards. SOLUTION: Matchmaking. Queue up to do expeditions with a full team. The expedition will be selected at random and hopefully streamlined as mentioned above, to keep the action moving forward, and give the player more variety. Make new friends in a multiplayer game, even, who would have thought. Thanks for coming to my TED TALK.

Might be a bit of a long msg and I apologize for that but I dont use reddit so only place I have to voice my opinion. And for clarity sake I am level 230 been playing the game super off and on since launch. I started off F76 as a melee character cus I saw some cool af melee weps that thought would be a blast to feel so bad ass to go in beating everything mercilessly. And, while it did feel good for a while b/c I was in my Fallout 1st world all alone, it didnt last. I thought ok I think I got a decent enough build ima go publics and try it out cus some events you really just cant solo properly. And, well I did and I could not get a damn hit off on enemy without everyone beaming the enemy down with w/e was meta at the time I cant recal. So, after that I dropped the melee build cus I got discouraged then I moved to the gauss shotty cus gauss weps were always so cool in other Fallouts and the same shit happened by the time I could chargeup my shotty someone with a legacy wep blasted 20 enemies on my screen before I could fire. So this happened on repeat for a while, just cycling builds until I reached where im at now in the game where I play bloodied heavy and its a cake walk. My biggest issue with F1st is while its so much more relaxing and fallouty to be able to wonder appalachia alone, there is so much u cant do solo. Events are nearly impossible, nuking for the bosses is out fo the question unless you have some insane build im sure you can do it but atp why? And, I am frankly ok with F1st being behind a pay wall b/c it means free updates. I 100% would rather live with no F1st and free dlc like skyline valley rather than free private worlds I probably wouldnt use that much then having to pay for extra content. I believe at least F1st private worldsd should be tailored to ur lvl/gear or overall have everything soloable. While I enjoy seeing other real humans I kind of sometimes want the old fallout feel but no point if I cant do the events there to get my scrip and gold. Endgame is atrocious, nothing to do other than scripping weps and rolling a couple times a day praying for that god roll and if u dont get it? Tough luck maybe tomorrow (coping). I wanna love the game I want to play this game more than I have been where its just bursts every couple of years then miss out on seasons due to lack of real content. I truly love this game but I seem to keep asking myself why am I playing? I'm not really going for much other than tryna get a god roll on every wep I like.

As a newer player of two months I’ve gotten so much levels just being near the level 500+ players on events. I’m at 90 already. Still haven’t finished probably half the story and have no idea what’s meta or not. I’ve had a great time even when I’m not carried.

Started back on 76 from Steam, because it was just recently been available to play on Geforce Go. So players on like Mac can play it now.

Shotgun build has been the most enjoyable for me. Not the best for damage, but at least more fun imho

Just smh remembering the old legacy weapons and the brokeness they were.

How 76 still dont have a textchatt is so strange to me, no other way to comunicate with other players then voice chatt. What if you are a mute or deaf its just like nope you cant interact with other players in the game.

I can't even complete events or quests anymore. Even since the update on PC a week ago, the servers are constantly glitching. I'll get back in, and my progress is gone, but so are the resources needed to complete the quest. I'm almost done with Fallout 76 now. So tired of the glitches. (only level 60 and been playing since May.)

And what did you expect? They’re making game for everyone, to sell their shit to everyone, they have no interest in making the game more difficult. And one more thing, difficulty in Bethesda games was garbage in them all, just making enemies bullet sponges

During Fasnacht, I've been bored and it's been fun to try out different flavored builds. I tried bloodied, stealth, played around with a flamer, and even did an explosives with the Thirst Zapper- probably the most fun thing I've tried. It is surprising how many new players don't know that they don't HAVE to be blooded, and reddit/discord show pretty plainly that people truly think this is the ONLY way and are asking about getting UNY and bloodied grolls at level 35.Then they trade for every plan in the game, then they're done. We need more content, more goalmarkers, and more difficulty. Skyline Valley had potential for story, immersion, exploration, and we got...really not a ton. There are several locations in SV that tell a story but have no quest attached. Why didn't they just finish it? I'd have been patient. ETA: Also they should raise the level for gear to 100.

The build is too strong 😢 the weapon is to strong 😥 the game doesn’t have enough contest 😥 I want to be able to play solo free of charge 😢 it sounds like a you problem the game doesn’t evolve around you if you think you could do better go ahead make your own game 🤌

There's no fixing the clown world that FO76 is. BGS is not going to give up catering to the dress-up crowd, who are more than happy to pay for useless cosmetic items.

I got a year of fallout 1st for 8 bucks from a website. Just fight them with your wallet

I preordered the game ive put hundreds of hours since and i have to say the game needs to be harder it would solve everything the need for stimpacks the need for radaway the need for materials the need for protection if you made enemies harder and stim packs and power armor harder to find harder to produce and maintain the game would become a survival game and one that would have the community opening vendors to sell important items to !!survive!! and the use of legendary items to kill bosses even better in vaule to everyone and for endgame players mainly to give them a Challenges even when they are basically fallout gods like as a level 145 at least you should have trouble in somewhere like the pitt or daily ops and for those and even higher they should go to areas where they need help even with dealing with enemies the game shouldnt punish you for being high leveled but should entice you to keep going the game as it is now lets you fight at least from like level 50 to 100 at an easy almost tedious pace there needs to be an enticement to countine playing other than a battlepass the system should be not that every area you go to your enemies are always the same level BUT THAT THEY actually get worse and harder as you go to differecnt areas as the game intented, the game SHOULD entice you to say hey you aretn the lord of the wastes yet keep going as enemies still pose a threat to you in some aspect or way and yes they want people to not be in pain when they play but eventually all the new players are getting to a high level and gonna realize this game is MAD easy and just a grind shooter than a survival game the beauty and vaule of something is the work it takes to get it and believe me the work you do in the fallout is too easy and when you have the reward the game loses all its purpose and its hard to come back to it without making a new character. mAKE THE GAME harder as an example surival mode on fallout 4 made you realize the game had character and that the world was actually there for you to survive and live off of bc you NEEEDED TO, THERE WAS A NEED FOR THESE BASIC IN GAME ELEMENTS IN FALLOUT 76 BASICALLY 90% of the game you can ignore the mechanics bc all you need to do is open map go to event get 70 stimpacks good gun repeat then level 200 the game needs a reason for you to explore it a reason to actually wander the wastes of west virgina and like look in a box for a piece of junk

Hate the meta? Join junkies! We have drugs and in Appalachia they are all legal! Never trust someone who is one foot from death. Shit ain't natural.

20 a month y'all a bunch of crybabies

People run bloodied (meta) builds for the unyielding XP boost, which then allows you to tackle the real end game - legendary perk leveling. There is no other reason to run it. The content is just too easy across the board, from start to finish. Min/maxing DPS is pointless. I don't need 1000 DPS if 100 will get the job done.

The more mmos I play the more I realize how much better guildwars2 is in everything. It's an 11 year old game and the graphics are better, the coding is more stable, and the game play more fun than anything Bethesda makes.

Harcore survival mode servers would make a bloodied build an actual risk.

Blooded is the only builds i see so yea its a problem

Well to be honest I'm loving this bleed damage meta (not the bloody build meta but a bleed damage build bassed off the new scythe)

The best way to do boss damage is CRITS every other shot. You don’t NNED to be Bloody to do that. It can help, sure, but it’s not essential.

I feel like Bethesda has limited what you can do Looking at you fallout 1st. Stuff doesn't do great damage if you don't run bloodied or into one kind of weapon When i got the game i was running about with a Western revolver and felt cool and it did great damage but as I got higher it felt like it was so weak and I stopped using it. I feel like more builds and weapons need to be viable for ppl to play with stuff they like. Maybe even add something to get 5 start stuff for an endgame for vets can grind to something pretty cool That could be just me tho I only have 150 hours

Unless you tell bethesda this, this whole conversation is pointless.

One Wasteland ruined the game where it normalized all enemies to your level. That made there be no difficulty at any point in this game. Years ago white springs ghouls were always level 60+ west tek super mutants were always level 60+ now you can run through those areas as a level 10 and they might be level 15s. Nothing should be scaled to your level until you hit level 60 and if youre level 500 then you should encounter level 500 enemies. Easy fix on the difficulty curve. And maybe some mechanics should be added to nuke boss encounters to make them a little more difficult than just gigantic bullet sponges unless youre running meta and then can melt Earle in 20 seconds or less solo.

yes, but is that what all games are like. you get to the end game and REPET. after paying a one off 180 dollars and I played for about 6 years. Not bad vale wouldn't you say.😎

My biggest gripe is players who use cremators and mini nukes or nuka grenades during events. They ruin the visual aspect, you get blinded and when you can finally see, there's nothing left to tag.

The "modifiers" is daily ops

Game lacks of any hard content

I couldn't help but think of Borderlands 3 when you mentioned modifiers💀💀💀

Anyone with a mini nuke gun can hog a event..

I remember back in the day when two shot explosive was way over powered and having 1400 in damage everything was killed in one shot

what if enemies scaled to like 250 instead of 100

Maybe they should level check you. Maybe the servers should reflect the players. Once you hit a certain level, you are allowed into the higher level servers. Idk, I find the game fun. Only thing I don't like is the build restrictions. I played FO 4 until the update, I am use to the building on there.

The game isn't about combat and is incorrectly identified as a looter shooter. That is a projection of the player's values onto the game. Fallout 76 is about economics and politics, perhaps ethics and identity - but above all ot is about experimentation. Every Fallout game since Bethesda aquired it allows a player to choose what portion of the game they want to trivialize, and combat has always been an option. Fallout has always been an RPG at heart. I am bloodied but die often because I want xp gain trivialized somewhat, and combat can remain difficult because I like the challenge to be there where my actual skills are. I also like simplified inventory management and crafting (i really hate mucking about in menus) so instead of min/maxing for combat alone, my build uses the advantages of unyeilding armor to make up for the fact I don't dedicate every last perk point to combat. If you don't kinda like intorior decorating or marketing, or perhaps technocratic experimentation, then there is no endgame in Fallout. Look at my other favorite franchise, Metal Gear, it also looks like a game about combat - but it's actually about NOT killing people in MSGV. That game is about perception, and language. Not everything needs to be about depth of combat. That being said, I welcome efforts to add a diverse set of builds to the game. I think AOE zones (water, rads, plants, air) that require movement and strategy depending on builds and buffs. Say, ghouls get bonus damage or healing in rad zone (and stay close to rad barrels in boss arena) while some only have buffs if they are flying or near some trees etc. Maybe those zones are randomized around the boss arenas or planned. Anything like that might create an even greater laboratory for experiments and that is what Fallout is about.

Just Bring back Nuclear Winter🤯 Ignore the new players - 40,000 have already abandoned the game. Bethesda has already turned this game into a Woke Pillow Fight😒 I have 5,000+ hours in this game - I could write a book about all the changes - Any players remember when NO player Vending Machines existed?😂 The Only currency was Caps and No Secret Service Armor/PA? Marine Armor was the Meta!😮

Vats criticals, flamers and auto melee ruin the game play. Vats is okay for people that need it just balance is so aiming is just as effective. Flamers should do good damage, just give them all the range of the flamer with the evap nozzle. Auto melee is fine without all the op buffs.

As a high level player (been playing since close to the end of first season) I do not like using Explosive weapons in public events (only exceptions are the end game bosses like Earle and the SBQ). My best build is my Carnivore melee build and I recently missed on a Fasnacht boss (Behemoth) loot because some other high lv player not in my team was using some Explosive legendary and killed it in less than a few seconds. Keep up the good work, you're totally not ruining the fun for everyone 👍